Thursday, February 4, 2010

Is the following statement true or false?

The ';Jesus Only'; doctrine leads to many other false doctrines, baptism included.





Selected writing: ';The so-called Apostolic churches, also called “United Pentecostal” churches (not to be confused with other Pentecostal churches) together with their independent church break-offs form the cult known as “Jesus Only”. This ';Jesus Only Movement';, which is in fact not of Jesus, has been making its move to infiltrate and lead astray and away the flocks of other churches with a false spirit renewal, legalistic teaching and a call to pseudo-holiness. ';








';This is a religion which denies the Scriptural doctrine of the Holy Trinity by claiming that the three persons of the one true God are merely one person. In essence, these so-called Apostolics adhere to a false belief that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are Jesus. They profess a false formula about the ';oneness'; of God. God truly is one, however, He is eternally expressed in three persons, namely speaking, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. The true essential doctrine of God’s triune nature is departed from in their beliefs, resulting in their worship of a false god. ';Is the following statement true or false?
those who hold to this doctrine denigh their own Bible, at the mount of transfiguration who said,'; this my beloved Son, in whom i am well pleased, hear ye him'; the Son, if he did, he is nuts! HE TALKS TO HIM SELF Matt. 17:1-9. Please explain Matt. 3:17And lo a voice from heaven, saying This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


What dose it mean when you have more than one voice in side your head. You know 2, 3, 4, mabe 5? If there is only one in the Godhead then he is nuts.Is the following statement true or false?
Are you a father? Are you a son to your parent? Are you a friend to somebody? These are all titles of you, as the names in the Holy trinity are all titles of God.
I am not a Jesus only person, Neither am I a trinity person, both teachings is wrong, I am an Apostolic Pentacostal person. the Jesus only people says God died, God has never died %26amp; can not die, If God died then how could God raise up Jesus again. Neither do I believe in the trinty, That teaching came from the catholic church in around 325 AD. No where in the bible do you find ONE person that was ever baptized in water according to Matt. 28:19 In the NAME of the father %26amp; of the son %26amp; of the holy ghost. It says NAME(Singular) not names, %26amp; father, son %26amp; holy ghost is not names, they are a title to one redemptive name, I challenge you to show me just one verse where Matt; 28:19 were fulfill as using titles. You can not find it. Everyone was Baptized in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ Acts 2:38 Paul even ask some people have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed, they said we have not heard of the holy ghost, Then Paul ask how were you baptized, they said unto John's baptism, Then Paul commanded them all to be re-baptized over again in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus himself said, I am come in my fathers name, There is only ONE redemptive name, %26amp; that is Jesus. Let me use a little example here. If I wrote you a check %26amp; I put pay to the order of father, or to son or to holy ghost, You will NEVER get that check cashed, Why, because there is no name on it but a title.
False, and very.
Although the doctrine of Jesus Only or oneness if straight from HELL itself, be careful how you the deceived believers of this doctrine.
Yeah, thats true. Thats why so many christians are converting to Islam, because Islam is what Jesus truly was teaching his followers all along. Thats why he prayed the same way the muslims do.
There is no trinity. That is why it isn't mentioned in the Bible.





Deuteronomy 6:4,5 - 4 Hear, O Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is one! 5 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.





HASTINGS ENCYCLOPEDIA OF RELIGION, Vol 2, Pg 389


Baptism was always in the name of Lord Jesus until the time of Justin Martyr when the Triune formula was used.





CANNEY ENCYCLOPEDIA OF RELIGION, Pg 53


The early church always baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus until development of the Trinity doctrine in the 2nd century.





Y'shua HaMaschiach (Jesus) is the Son of God. He is a Hebrew man (human) born of human parents (Joseph and Mary). He carries the lineage of Abraham and King David through His Jewish father. He is NOT God in the flesh. The Bible never says that He is God. And, He never claims to be God.





The 'Christian' Jesus doesn't line up with the Old Testament's prophesies of who the Messiah really is. This is also partly the reason that Jews may find the Christ-Catholic version of Messiah laughable. Many people see Christians as worshiping 'another' god.





Jews know the Tanakh ('Old' Testament). All things in the Newer Testament must be verified through the Older Testament. This is what Paul was telling us in the Bible about the Bereans (Acts 17:10-12). What book do Christians think the Bereans were reading to verify what Paul was teaching?





Jesus is not a pagan semi-human demigod. The trinity is a theory of Babylonian origin. Like many deceptions of the Babylonian mystery religions, the 'trinity' is also a mystery. It is a mystery simply because, lies can never prove true.
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how is one to decide what is truth among those who bicker, calling one persons beliefs fiction, and giving only other unproven fictions as evidence for their own opinion?
Talk to Jesus about it...





'; I am The Way, The Truth, and The Life; no man can come to the Father except through me';. -- Jesus Christ (Jn. 14:6)





'; Neither is there salvation in any other; for there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved';. (Acts 4:12)
Any statement that claims the Jesus character as a real person is false.
all abt jesus


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This is an interesting topic to be reading on here. I honestly did not think that anyone outside of the South knew about the ';Jesus Only'; movement. I have attended church services at one of these kinds of churches. It was an experience.





I don't believe that the Christian faith should incorporate creeds that are too distant from the main teachings from the beginning of this religion. That being said, too many Christian churches have strayed from the teachings of Jesus Christ. Too many churches are exclusionistic. Too many think that they are the only ';true'; Christians. Too many conform to worldly things trying to ';reach more people.'; In my opinion, the true sense of the word Christianity means Love, as in Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul and mind. And, Love one another as you do yourself. That's the message that should be spread, not doctinal statements.





My answer to question above, I don't think that the ';Oneness'; doctrine is the right path to God. They are too much about guilt, fear and emotional fervor.
Religion is false, follow Christ.
That's not a statement, that's a rant.

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